• September 27, 2021
 Op-Ed: Critics of Trump’s rally wouldn’t dare tell us to tear down our own wall

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Op-Ed: Critics of Trump’s rally wouldn’t dare tell us to tear down our own wall

The politicians obstructing the construction of the wall along our southern border ought to come down to El Paso for President Trump’s rally Monday night and try to tell people here that we should tear down our wall with Juarez.

Democrats in Washington are fighting tooth and nail to stop even one inch of a new wall, insisting that border walls are “ineffective” and “immoral.” Democrat politicians have decided that they know better than our Border Patrol agents, who say physical barriers are necessary for border security, and proclaim that all we need to secure the border is a few new surveillance drones.

So why don’t they just take their reasoning to its logical conclusion and tell us to tear down our wall?

The answer is that they wouldn’t dare because they know full well we’d tell them to get lost. Unlike them, we’ve seen with our own eyes just how effective border walls really are.

El Paso remains one of the safest big cities in America despite being only walking distance from violence-plagued Juarez. In the last decade, our sister city endured the brunt of one of the greatest humanitarian disasters in the history of this continent, the still-simmering Mexican Drug War. Media outlets have called Juarez “the most dangerous place on earth.”

Luckily for us in El Paso, this explosion of violence came at the same time that the 2006 Secure Fence Act was passed. Murder rates in Juarez rose to levels more typical of Middle Eastern warzones than North American cities, and in 2010, as our wall was being completed, Juarez was awash with blood. More than 3,000 people were killed in a city of just over 1.3 million inhabitants.

El Paso, conversely, only had five murders that year. Five.

That number represents a decrease of more than 90 percent from the peak of violence in the early 90’s. While decades of outstanding police work and good public policy were the key to making our city one of the safest in America, the border wall has been crucial for securing that painstaking progress.

The wall allows our Customs and Border Patrol agents to maintain an effective barrier against the horrific violence on our doorstep, which would negate all of our hard-won gains if the criminals responsible for it were allowed to enter our city unimpeded. While Juarez has made progress in recent years, it still remainstragically violent.

No one in their right mind would suggest that El Paso should become more like Juarez, but that’s exactly what would happen if we were to tear down the barrier that allows us to control who is coming into our city from one of the continent’s most violent places, and intercept the drugs that fuel that violence.

Yet, the groups planning to protest the President’s rally Monday night are blithely parroting the Democrats’ position on border security, which essentially demands that we leave America’s entire border as porous as El Paso’s once was before our wall went up.

The President is visiting El Paso because it showcases a perfect example of how a simple construction project has been incredibly effective in making a once-lawless border very secure, with apprehensions for illegal crossings down more than 90 percent. He’s coming here to propose replicating the same proven solution along 234 carefully-selected miles along the border where law enforcement professionals tell us barriers will be most effective.

Tickets are first-come, first-served, so if any obstructionist Democrats feel like coming out here and telling the people of El Paso that walls don’t work, we’ll be happy to set them straight.


Rick Seeberger was a candidate for Texas Congressional District 16 which represents the majority of El Paso County. Now founder of El Pasoans United, an Initiative standing up for truth; educating El Pasoans; and taking civic action for government accountability, transparency, and fiscal responsibility.


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  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3kFNOhnBqQ&ab_channel=OneAmericaNewsNetwork

    The border patrol, DHS, ICE our Military & the Army Corps of Engineers have all stated the wall in needed numerous times almost nightly. However, immigration experts Nancy Pelosi & Chuck Schumer disagree. I’ll go with the opinions of the men & women who work the border daily not the open borders crowd. Barrack Obama’s own border patrol chief, Mark Morgan, has repeatedly stated that walls work. They free up resources to focus on the points of entrances so they can detect more contraband and illegals. Democrats fear only one thing more than the wall, that is the wall working. So far in San Diego CA, Yuma AZ & El Paso TX where there were major problems with illegal crossings before; have now all but vanished.

    More caravans on the way. The current migration at our border is costing U.S taxpayers a Kings ransom. Fleeing persecution? or fleeing for freebies? they sure don’t stay in Mexico when they reach “safety” or ask or offered political asylum in Mexico. Why? because Mexico will give them NOTHING. So they make the long journey to our border, our generous Democrats, and our tax dollars. Notice how many have made the long, difficult, dangerous journey to our country 8-9 months pregnant? Why would they do that? we all know. Give birth on American soil and the U.S. taxpayers will not only pay for the birth of you’re child but will also give you state government assistance.

    To Democrats U.S. citizens are acceptable collateral damage to their future long range goals of flooding the country and taxpayers paying the bill. Democrat politicians and their voters have put families at risk of being victimized by illegal aliens as in the cases Kate Steinly (nothing done) then…. Mollie Tibbetts, (nothing done) and now, Police Cpl. Ronil Singh nothing will be done…who’s next?

    These victims would be alive today if our border was secured

    Just a few examples of the more outrageous costs associated with illegal immigration, we will pass this burden on to our children & grand children as has been passed on to us.

    *Lets start with just debating DACA in congress is costing taxpayers millions of dollars. Thank the parents and Barrack Obama.


    *Cost of educating illegal aliens is staggering. From K-12 it costs taxpayers on average $122,000 for EACH illegal alien student. This does not include the millions spent on bilingual ED, instructors, & day care. School class size are negatively impacted by illegal aliens and our students suffer as a result.

    *Taxpayers are funding “in state college tuition” discounts for illegal aliens. (AZ voted to terminate this taxpayer expense.) Cost to taxpayers over a billion dollars annually.

    Criminal Justice:

    *About one in five inmates in federal prison are foreign-born, and more than 90 percent of those are in the United States illegally. This does not include local jails and state prisons. At
    roughly $24,000 per year expense per inmate in Prison U do the math.

    *$3Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate, process Illegal aliens in the Criminal justice system.

    Hospital & Emergency services:

    * Emergency services for city & states increase with illegal immigration (sanctuary cities). Taxpayer pay for every Police, Fire, Paramedic service calls for illegal aliens in their city’s. Taxpayers pay for all Hospital emergency room treatments, ambulances, medications. Hospital wait times for citizens are negatively impacted.

    *Every child birth by illegal aliens in the US is paid for with tax dollars.In the US, the average cost to have a baby without complications during delivery, is $10,808, which can increase to $30,000 when factoring in care provided before and after pregnancy (July 9, 2018 google.)

    *$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on is spent on food assistance programs such as SNAP, WIC, & taxpayer funded school lunches.

    • You actually think that a so-called news site ‘One America News Network’ is actually accurate? Stop drinking the kool-aid!


    • Don’t expect the far left, like Cholo to accept logic, they are incapable of independent thought

  • The propaganda of GOP acolytes as always project false narratives. If someone is committed enough to cross over to the US a wall won’t stop them. Heard about all the Central American migrants coming up to the wall? They are surrendering to ICE agents along the border. It sure as heck is not deterring them from asking for asylum. This is nothing more than Trump’s vanity project even if it’s going to cost taxpayers 5.7 billion dollars.

    As someone who has lived here all my life El Paso has always had a low violent crime rate even before the new reinforced wall was constructed after 2006. I will say this: Operation Hold The Line initiated by former BP chief Sylvestre Reyes in 1992 lowered the petty crime rate in downtown such as car theft, purse snatching, and shoplifting among other misdemeanors.

    In the early 1990’s El Paso averaged 50 murders a year-lower than St. Louis, Detroit, Washington D.C. Who was committing the murders? Northeast gang members doing drive by’s-US citizens, some were from military families unfortunately. Granted that not every immigrant was law abiding, but repeating the same false narrative that is NOT backed up by empirical data is plainly irresponsible and sets a dangerous precedent especially by the leader of the United States.

    As the infamous and notorious German Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels said: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    How unfortunate that the President is taking a page out of a notorious Nazi’s play book. We in El Paso who have lived here long enough can see through the blatant lies the President and his supporters want people to believe. Some of his supporters don’t care whether violent crime was high or not, they see Trump through the glasses of fanatical fascism. Something that is totally against the so-called freedom they say they so endear.

    • Hey Cholo. I’ve lived in El Paso my whole life and I support this President and his agenda. He is fixing everything that made this country a laughing stock the previous 8 years. When you make a generalized statement like, “We in El Paso who have lived here long enough can see through the blatant lies the President and his supporters want people to believe”, then you sir are making a false statement yourself. I do not agree with a single word in that statement. The biggest mistake that President Trump has made in this border discussion was making it JUST about violent criminals and drugs. What he should be doing is focusing on the real threat which is the amount of poverty, disease, invasive insects, infected rodents that come with them, the trash they leave along the way (I thought you liberals cared about the planet!). All of which WE pay for at a cost FAR above the 5.7 billion. When we are able to put a stop to these “free” entitlement programs that these illegals covet (including healthcare and now FREE medical checks upon arrival at our expense) then we will get that money back and, in essence, Mexico would have paid for the wall, one way or the other.

    • Han Cholo. Maybe you should project some of your “knowledge” into DNC agenda on gun control. If a wall won’t stop those committed enough from coming then I would say that more gun control regulations won’t stop those committed to inflict harm from inflicting harm.

  • And then there are facts:

    “Violent crime has been dropping in El Paso since its modern-day peak in 1993 and was at historic lows before a fence was authorized by Congress in 2006. Violent crime actually ticked up during the border fence’s construction and after its completion, according to police data collected by the FBI.”


  • “So why don’t they just take their reasoning to its logical conclusion and tell us to tear down our wall?”

    They wouldn’t because it is not in any way ‘the logical conclusion’ – that is a self-serving and inflammatory conflation.
    It is an ‘argument’ built of the same straw as the other oft touted ‘Democrats want wide open borders’ a delusional corollary.

    • Nobody want’s wide open borders! democrats want better security modern technology measures to deter illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Those immigrants coming in from central America are seeking asylum as they are escaping from their corrupted governments and gangs.
      But you like Donald Trump want this racist border wall because Donald Trump promised Y’ALL that Mexico would pay for it! HaHaHaHaHa.
      If would could, we should restore the Rio Grande back to the way it use to be and look! and remove all the concrete ditches.

      • First of all, I’d just like to point out that Mueller is actually going away. In case your only source of info is CNN or MSNBC, Mueller has nothing and probably won’t even file a report. Funny how you use the MAGA though. Typical liberal who can’t think for himself. “Yes. Cows bad. Cow farts bad. Please exterminate all cows…..and planes……”.

        Second, How is Trumps wall in any way racist? He has not done one thing that is even remotely racist. He is trying to protect us from people who hate us and/or people who only want free hand outs. This country cannot keep taking in the worlds problems. We simply cannot afford it. That has nothing to do with race.

        • You say that Mueller is going away! hows that? 6 indicted criminals,two sentence to prison, and the Muller probe takes a while before he is done issuing more indictments, Roger Stone was his latest catch, Donald Trump Jr is next.Immigrants don’t hate us, you the original pose more danger to us Americans than even ISIS! you are home grown terrorist extremist just like Timothy McVeigh. It’s just a matter of time before you Snap and go on a killing rampage at a mall or maybe a school or church. Donald Trump is a racist, he learned all his hate from his father Fred Trump that wouldn’t rent out his apartments to African Americans. Donald Trump wanted the New York Central Park Five to die,they were 4 African Americans and one Puerto Rican. They were all found NOT GUILTY!
          You are way too brainwashed by watching FAKE FOX NEWS! you should be ashamed of yourself, but you know no boundaries of what shame is since you happen to be shameless.
          The worlds problems is Americas problems,where in the hell do you think you live? It’s called planet Earth.
          I’m not typical, I’m special and way smarter than you’ll ever be,and Donald Trump don’t give a damn about you and your basket of deplorables either.He’s even said that he likes the uneducated,that means you, but don’t take him at his word.
          Robert Mueller will file a report, it’s Attorney General William Barr that has to show it to all Americans! That’s a huge issue because he probably won’t reveal what the report says.
          CNN and MSNBC is a very good source of news information, they tell it like it is. The truth and all the real facts!
          Go back to the KVIA forum, there is where you belong.
          Yes race and religion is a big factor for Donald Trump,two and a half years ago he wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the country.
          And he keeps insulting Native Americans and calls senator Warren pocahontas. And says that Mexicans are criminals and rapist.
          You must belong to the White Rights Privilege cult.
          TRUMP FOR PRISON IN 2020 or sooner.
          Now digest that,original trumpTURD!

          • Ok. This is obviously pointless. It is very clear that there is no collusion. Muellers indictments are for personal decisions that those individuals made about THEIR finances and have nothing to do with Russia. There is simply no collusion and the fact that that is the case is driving some of you suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome absolutely insane. Muellers main objective is to make sure he covers up any involvement of himself and any of his cronies in the Hillary criminal conspiracy cover up. She’s the one guilty of Russian collusion. Once the last of the remaining evidence against Hillary is flushed out and then flushed down, his “investigation” will be done. Before you blow another gasket and accuse me of being a FOX news nut, my conclusion is based on over a year of in-depth analysis into the entire farce from MULTIPLE sources. I understand that you do not have the mental capacity to put together a puzzle but when you look at all the parts and put them together, you will see there is nothing there. As far as your comparison to Timothy McVeigh, well that again is your TDS kicking in and completely ridiculous. I have lived in El Paso for over 50 years and have never hurt anyone. I have never considered hurting anyone. In fact, I have never even been in a fight. I don’t know what it’s like to punch someone or to be punched. I’ve never felt the need. You are far more likely to snap and kill someone. I can sense your anger and I don’t even know you. To compare a law abiding, highly educated citizen who works hard everyday to provide for his family to an ISIS terrorist or a serial killer is disgusting and it shows how insane the left have become. You ae a sick individual. It is those kinds of comments and the people like you who make them that divides us not the comments of a President who is just working to take this country back to greatness. That does not mean I agree 100% with all of his decisions or some of his tactics. I don’t but the results are unarguable. He is getting the job done. I made a simple statement that I have a right to make and I was brutally verbally attacked. You sir are the one who should be ashamed. Oh and by the way, racism works both ways. As one of the few white men left in this town, I am regularly harassed and ridiculed because I don’t speak Spanish. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been refused some type of service because I don’t speak the language of the person providing that service. And on an almost daily basis, I get that “No Espanol?” response and the looks and racist responses that come with it. Have a good day sir and please get some help. Anger management programs and mental health services are readily available to serve you.

  • I would tell the deplorables that attended Trump’s hate rally to shove that wall up,where the sun never shines!
    And to The original maggot! it’s way to easy to figure you out, you are one of the commentators over at the KKK-KVIA forum. Probably Watch Hawg!!! Robert Mueller’s indictments are what they are! for CRIMINALS ONLY! and Donald Trump has filled up the swamp with these types of criminals. That is why he is rounding them all up,one by one. First is was Michael Flynn who is still awaiting sentencing,that will be disclosed next month. Also Paul Manafort for lying just like you are lying now,he might spend the rest of his life in prison.Then it’s Michael Cohen the Fixer! boy is he snitching on Donald Trump and he still has to testify before the house judiciary committee. Three years in prison for him is not enough,he should had received no more than 30 years.You are the one that is delusional about Donald Trump,and you are suffering for that,you know that you’re in total denial. But are way too coward to admit it,there is no such thing as a Hillary Clinton conspiracy! And besides she is not under investigation,the republicans went after her and couldn’t find anything. NO WRONG DOING! not even the Benghazi investigation revealed anything.Her emails,well ask Vladimir Putin what he found? You are the one blowing gaskets out of your sore sphincter! as you ache.As for Timothy McVeigh, this stuff is really getting to you’re syphilis infected brain,whats left of it. Maybe you picked up another disease from phony tattoo inks,yeah I know who you are,the fool that was loading up several assault riffles three years ago.What are you in some type of cult militia? Nobody asked about how old you are 50,30,20 something,it makes no difference,you are still a freaking moron.Psychotic lunatic that dyes your hair blue sometimes like a damn cultist,and you are affiliated with your gang. You know you are, trying to make yourself seem like a nice guy,there is no such thing as a nice deplorable trumpTURD! Law abiding, don’t fit you’re profile, it’s probably that you still haven’t got caught or maybe you have.
    You said that you are highly educated and that you understand that I don’t have the mental capacity!
    This is totally crap! and moronically childish,grow a pair boy!
    You are despicable disgusting,do you still live with your grandfather?
    Donald Trump has divided this country like no one else ever has before! and like Trump, you are a freaking hater. And he is not getting the job done but only lining his own pockets which is a clear violation of the emolument clause. There you go stooge, and try to figure that one out!
    America was all ready great way before Donald Trump,considering that president Obama left him in pretty good shape with the economy. He planted the recovery seeds and Trump is here to redeem the great results,from what such a great president Obama is. Trump will go down in history as a convict felon from the federal penitentiary.
    OMG!you made a statement, and you were brutally verbally attack! well then call 911 or call the red cross!
    write to Ted Cruz.Or get a band aid or two! Somebody, anybody! what’s speaking Spanish has to do with you’re mental state of mind! Why don’t you admit yourself to a state mental ward?
    If people see that you have brown skin and you don’t speak any Spanish,that is you’re problem! Most of the deplorables wearing their red maga hats at Trump’s hate rally had brown skin. I bet that they only speak English.
    I’m having a blast after I read your garbage nonsense. Get educated,and Fox News is not a good news source. Ay te wacho tonto.
    This thread will disappear by sun down!
    Good Riddance!

    • I really hate to continue sending you down this trail of insanity but you just keep saying things that I have to point out. Stating with the typical liberal hypocrisy. You said that if I don’t speak Spanish that is my problem. Basically “deal with it” right? Well I say, you hypocrite, to those illegals trying to invade our country, “You weren’t born in the great US of A. That’s your problem.”. Not so funny when it’s turned around is it?

      I already to explained to you. I am well aware of Hillary’s “clean record”. But there is an abundance of evidence that clearly shows how her wrong doings were well covered up. She was protected by the Obama Administration and his corrupt cabinet. Take off the rose colored glasses. Many of Obama’s cronies will start to fall as these investigations against Hillary are reopened. It’s pointless to point this out to you. You’ll never get it. Your hatred for Trump runs too deep. I wish I had the same option. If I ad spoken about Obama like you speak of Trump I would have been labeled a racist.

      I have no idea who you seem to think that I am but I have never posted anything to KVIA’s forum and this is only the 3th or 4th time I’ve posted here. I can assure you I have no tattoos, I do not have blue hair and I do not live with my grandfather. I can also assure that I have never committed any crime as you seem to accuse me of, I do not have any STD’s and never have and I do not own assault rifles nor have I ever “loaded” any. You clearly have me mistaken with someone else.

      Again, please get some help. You are clearly delusional and are a threat to yourself, this community and yourself and your family (assuming you have any family).

      • All you do, is do like Donald Trump! deny deny deny!!! you know who you are,but it’s easy for you to pretend that you are someone else.
        We’ll put that behind us for now.You are the one that is totally insane,come on,you are a right wing conservative staunch republican. Pro everything that Donald Trump tells you and feeds in to your spinless body.And a Fox News propaganda brainwashed skull finishes the rest with their fake news.
        Even Donald Trump has singled out fools just like you when he says that his base of supporters believe everything he says to them.Even though it ain’t true as he continues to lie.
        If Donald Trump tells you that moon men are growing pot on the dark side of the moon,you’ll graciously stand up and applaud him.
        Then you’ll start chanting repeatedly, LOCK THEM UP! or BUILD THE WALL!
        You said that illegals are invading our country! well mind you that four centuries ago, your descendants invaded the western hemisphere from Europe.Then your descendents had the balls to commit genocide against native Americans, and put then into reservations.When your descendents almost wiped them off the face of the earth.
        You can say that I was not born in the United States,but I can tell you that the boundary of the border came to us, and not the other way around.
        And that also means you,are not from El Paso,you were not born in El Paso since you claim to be a white caucasian.
        You never did say that Hillary Clinton has a clear record, just another slander of excuses coming from you. Hillary Clinton is clean. And she has attracted many republican haters since white water.
        She should be the president of our nation at this time!after all, she did win the vote of the people by three million more votes than Trump.
        All other democracies base the winner of their elected presidents to the vote of the people. Only here in the United States we have this rig system called the electoral college.That enables the loser on the presidential elections to make it to the white house. Other than Donald Trump did receive help from the Russian’s,that even Vladimir Putin said so himself during the Helsinki summitt when asked by a reporter if he was involved in interfering in our presidential elections. He said: YES I DID,YES I DID!
        He wanted Donald Trump to win so he could remove the Russian sanctions against Russia.
        The is no evidence that shows any wrong doing by Hillary Clinton, nothing,it’s all in your flabbergasted mind of lies. Like I told you before, Hillary Clinton is not under criminal investigation, but Donald Trump is under criminal investigation by the special counsel criminal investigator,Robert Mueller.
        President Barack Obama ran a clean administration,no one in his administration ever had to resign or was under criminal investigation. FACT CHECK THAT you FOOL!
        I don’t hate Donald Trump! I despise him and loath him like crazy as much as I do for all of his basket of deplorables.Creeps just like you, and those in attendance at the coliseum on Monday,that crowd looked familiar like if they were bused in from Raleigh North Carolina or Boise Idaho.Even Michael the blackman in blacks for Trump were in attendance. He didn’t pay no bus fare to come all the way to El Paso for Trump’s hate rally.Donald Trump is known to pay people to attend his hate rallies and buses them around from town to town.
        As for speaking anti president Barack Obama rhetorics, that’s all you did for eight long years he was in office.And you are still doing it now just by saying that Obama had cronies,when none of these people were ever under criminal investigation.FACT CHECK THAT! you FOOL!
        Nobody is asking you anything about posting on KVIA! I’ve already called you out,and your guilt explains the rest. Once again DENY DENY DENY!!!
        You came here to argue with me,you don’t even have a leg to stand on!
        Let there be NO MISTAKE! you are who you are,and you are free to deny deny deny.Besides you are not under criminal investigation,but I sure have pulled your string of nerves full of guilt.
        Don’t you worry about my family,you should be sorry about your’s,mainly if they don’t think freely and openly with their brains.Obviously you don’t.

        • You continue to make my point with constant spewing . You have no idea who I am. Other than attending the Trump rally, mostly our of curiosity, I keep a low profile and I don’t go out much other than work. I have a very small network of people I associate with. I have no guilt and I have checked my facts. One day history will prove you wrong. I don’t expect you believe that nor do I care if you don’t. You said yourself, you despise Donald Trump. I get it but that hatred is driving you to insanity. 6 years from now when Mr. Trump is no longer President, we will have a better, stronger, safer country and none of this will matter. You will still continue to be the hateful person that you are today. I must admit though, I’d sure like to meet this person that you seem to think that I am. He seems to have really gotten under your skin!

          • You said that you have a small network of people! yeah the same people that have this so called illegal tattoo operation.
            Since the IRS don’t know about this illegal operation,neither does the health department. I won’t disclose the name of your illegal operation,but the name starts with the letter G.
            You and your hate assumptions are most disturbing,and says alot about you.As you deny and deny and deny,but the truth hurts you.
            Over at the KVIA forum you act all badass, and you know who mikey is.
            Mikey is the one that exposed my real name as he got it from here on the El Paso Herald Post commenting forum.
            I use to post with my real name here,and Mikey unmask me,and since then you and your racist thugs have smeared me with your false allegations.Defamation of Character is what it is called!!!
            You remember when you first posted on KVIA day after the 2016 elections with the screen of, Deplorables Won?
            Don’t say that it’s not you.
            The only differences is that you are a coward,and you refrain from using certain words and quotes.
            You make yourself sound like an innocent person! but you don’t fool me.
            You lie and deny just like Donald Trump…. you fool.
            From KVIA you know that I post on the EL Paso Herald Post. And you came here to see what I was saying after your racist Trump came to El Paso.
            Denier=Liar! deny lie deny lie deny lie.

  • Eight days later, and the El Paso County Coliseum still has the stench of SULFUR, after Satan’s visit to bash El Paso! Recruiting wen’t pretty well for the devil.
    He’s back in Washington D.C. tweeting a hell of a storm,lying and stuffing his face with McDonalds junk food.

    • That’s the stinch of the rotting, aborted babies that have become the Democratic agenda mixed with the stinch of Mueller’s dying “investigation” along with a touch of the smell of McCabe’s treason and a dash of Jussie Smollet’s stinky hoax.

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